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essence of divinity · Jul 11, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12

i'm a happy visa user. why would i change

Caith-Avar · Jul 11, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by jelmew

The following means of payment are accepted for online serial code/access key purchases from PlayNC:

* American Express®
* MasterCard®
* Visa®
* Switch / Maestro (UK only)
* Solo (UK only)
* Carte Bancaire (FR only)
* Carte Bleu (FR only)
* Paysafecard (Germany, Austria, Greece, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and the UK)

Interestingly, in my online (=ingame, not the NCsoft store on a browser) store, I can select American Express, MasterCard, Visa, as well as Carte Bancaire and Card Bleue. And although I honor the ancient, common roots with them... I'm not french.

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That leads me to the question, gaile, may we dutch get maestro? Pretty pretty plz?

And us in Germany too? I mean, while almost no-one I know has a credit card, almost everyone I know has a maestro debit card.

Gaia_Hunter · Jul 11, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Lots of confusion in this thread.

But the poll is really bad designed.

I dont have a cc and never used paypal.
I would buy a couple of character slots if the paying methods didnt exclude me.

So, if the poll was "Would you buy online if there were different methods pay, like paypall?", then I would gladly say yes.

Now, this thread seems a Credit Card vs Paypall thing, with some people saying that anet shouldnt add (sic) paypall because they dislike it or because they can use other paying methods.

milan · Jul 11, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Due to the issues I had in the past with the in game store I wouldn't use my CC again in it. I have a paypal account which I use online whenever I can as it saves me giving out my cc details. I'm aware that paypal charge fees but for large business users they aren't that much higher than credit card merchant fees.

I've read above that the plaync site takes the paysafecard which after checking out seems like a fantastically simple idea with very little chance for fraud, why not use that, or at least stock the 'add on's on the plaync site store?

Sheriff · Jul 11, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

I would use Paypal for the simple reason that I always get an error when trying to purchase on the ingame store with my portuguese credit card.

seut · Jul 12, 2007, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by jelmew

I knew this could be founded somewhere

PlayNC Online Code Purchase: Accepted Means of payment

Question
PlayNC Online Code Purchase: Accepted Means of payment

Answer
The following means of payment are accepted for online serial code/access key purchases from PlayNC:

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* Switch / Maestro (UK only)
.
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* Paysafecard (Germany, Austria, Greece, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and the UK)

aside from the obvious question, why Maestro is UK only..
why is there no option for this "Paysafecard " in the ingame shop?

Hyper.nl · Jul 12, 2007, 07:43 AM // 07:43

UPDATE:

I might get PayPal when ANet puts in more goods to buy in the shop. The main games I will still buy in regular shops for the physical goodies, but why should I not buy some game of the year weapons etc? I can't buy them now because no credit card.

Xeeron · Jul 12, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13

No, I would not use PayPal. (Please explain):

No Paypal account, no intention of getting one.

- Xeeron

kurtas · Jul 12, 2007, 11:47 AM // 11:47

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No, I would not use PayPal. (Please explain)

Explanation: http://paypalsucks.com/

baz777 · Jul 12, 2007, 12:55 PM // 12:55

It amazes me that a company would restrict its customer’s payment methods like this at all.

By all means add PayPal.

I would also add a ‘continent’ postal address for cheque payments etc… as well.

Give as many options to all your customers as possible and not penalise those that do not have/want just the payment methods that you currently offer.

You may just see more people using the online shop then!

jelmew · Jul 12, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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Originally Posted by Caith-Avar

Interestingly, in my online (=ingame, not the NCsoft store on a browser) store, I can select American Express, MasterCard, Visa, as well as Carte Bancaire and Card Bleue. And although I honor the ancient, common roots with them... I'm not french.

And us in Germany too? I mean, while almost no-one I know has a credit card, almost everyone I know has a maestro debit card.

Interesting, that means that list isn't totally acurate, because I also have those french cards. I thought only dutch people had them because we're so small

Gli · Jul 12, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

It's starting to look like everyone that I know of in continental Europe is presented with the same list of options: AmEx, Visa, MC, Carte Bancaire, Carte Blue. Perhaps tied to our shared currency?

jiggerjay · Jul 12, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

i have a debit card and paypal, no credit card, i like paypal, because its safe and secure, i would prefer to buy a couple of things from the store with paypal, as some people keep money in their accounts.

i like some people hate putting their card details out online.

Kashrlyyk · Jul 12, 2007, 05:04 PM // 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtas

Explanation: http://paypalsucks.com/

This is interesting:

Top 3 PayPal Questions

Can PayPal hold my money with no explanation? The answer is YES.
Can PayPal freeze my account for no reason? The answer is YES.
Can PayPal take money out of my account without my knowledge?
The answer is YES.

How can I close my PayPal account? I only get to the security questions, where I should answer in some categories, which are not displayed.

FSA details about PayPal: Why is it not longer authorised?

Basic details for:

226056 - Paypal (Europe) Ltd
Current status: No longer Authorised
Effective Date: 04/07/2007
Address: Hotham House
1 Heron Square
Richmond upon Thames
Surrey
TW9 1EJ
Phone:
Fax:
Email:
Website: 44 020 8605 3000
44 020 8605 3001
[email protected]
www.paypal.co.uk

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmR...lQz Np65In0__

pork soldier · Jul 12, 2007, 08:43 PM // 20:43

I'd rather not pay any "Paypal Tax" to Paypal/Ebay, these guys already make enough money skimming off the top as it is.

Gli · Jul 12, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

I feel the same way about creditcard companies.

jelmew · Jul 13, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

This is interesting:

Top 3 PayPal Questions

Can PayPal hold my money with no explanation? The answer is YES.
Can PayPal freeze my account for no reason? The answer is YES.
Can PayPal take money out of my account without my knowledge?
The answer is YES.

How can I close my PayPal account? I only get to the security questions, where I should answer in some categories, which are not displayed.

FSA details about PayPal: Why is it not longer authorised?

Basic details for:

226056 - Paypal (Europe) Ltd
Current status: No longer Authorised
Effective Date: 04/07/2007
Address: Hotham House
1 Heron Square
Richmond upon Thames
Surrey
TW9 1EJ
Phone:
Fax:
Email:
Website: 44 020 8605 3000
44 020 8605 3001
[email protected]
www.paypal.co.uk

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmR...lQz Np65In0__

You should be sceptical of anything, only I do think those sites are not totally objective.

Kashrlyyk · Jul 13, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

From PayPals EULA:

"10.2 Actions by PayPal. . If you engage in any Restricted Activities, we may take various actions to protect PayPal, eBay, a User, a third party, or you from Reversals, Chargebacks, Claims, fees, fines, penalties and any other liability. The actions we may take include but are not limited to the following:

We may close, suspend, or limit your access to your Account or the Services (such as limiting access to any of your Funding Sources, and your ability to send money, make withdrawals, or remove financial Information);

We may contact third parties and disclose details of the Restricted Activities in the manner set out in our Privacy Policy;

We may update inaccurate Information you provided us;

We may refuse to provide our Services to you in the future;

We may hold your funds for up to 180 Days if reasonably needed to protect against the risk of liability; and

We may take legal action against you."

"10.5 Acceptable Use Policy Violation - User Fines. If you violate the Acceptable Use Policy as set forth below in clauses (a) or (b) below, then we hold you liable for £350 (or currency equivalent) for each such violation and may take legal action against you to recover additional losses we incur. You acknowledge and agree that £350 (or currency equivalent) is presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal’s damages, considering all currently existing circumstances, including the relationship of the sum to the range of harm to PayPal that reasonably could be anticipated and the anticipation that proof of actual damages may be impractical or extremely difficult. PayPal may deduct such fines directly from any existing Balance in the offending Account, or any other PayPal Account you control. "

jelmew · Jul 13, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

From PayPals EULA:

"10.2 Actions by PayPal. . If you engage in any Restricted Activities, we may take various actions to protect PayPal, eBay, a User, a third party, or you from Reversals, Chargebacks, Claims, fees, fines, penalties and any other liability. The actions we may take include but are not limited to the following:

We may close, suspend, or limit your access to your Account or the Services (such as limiting access to any of your Funding Sources, and your ability to send money, make withdrawals, or remove financial Information);

We may contact third parties and disclose details of the Restricted Activities in the manner set out in our Privacy Policy;

We may update inaccurate Information you provided us;

We may refuse to provide our Services to you in the future;

We may hold your funds for up to 180 Days if reasonably needed to protect against the risk of liability; and

We may take legal action against you."

"10.5 Acceptable Use Policy Violation - User Fines. If you violate the Acceptable Use Policy as set forth below in clauses (a) or (b) below, then we hold you liable for £350 (or currency equivalent) for each such violation and may take legal action against you to recover additional losses we incur. You acknowledge and agree that £350 (or currency equivalent) is presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal’s damages, considering all currently existing circumstances, including the relationship of the sum to the range of harm to PayPal that reasonably could be anticipated and the anticipation that proof of actual damages may be impractical or extremely difficult. PayPal may deduct such fines directly from any existing Balance in the offending Account, or any other PayPal Account you control. "

1. There is nothing unusual here, they all try to cover themselves.
2. This thread isn't made to discuss the liablility of paypall.
3. Never put to much money in something that can be unreliable, rule 1 of the internet

Kashrlyyk · Jul 13, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jelmew

1. There is nothing unusual here, they all try to cover themselves.
2. This thread isn't made to discuss the liablility of paypall.
3. Never put to much money in something that can be unreliable, rule 1 of the internet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

If you engage in any Restricted Activities....

We may close, ... your Account ....

They are judge and at the same time executioner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

...You acknowledge and agree that £350 (or currency equivalent) is presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal’s damages....

Do you agree that 350 pounds is a reasonable minimum(!!!!!) estimate?
They will fine you with 350 pounds no matter how little the offense was. That is way too much.